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Post by tech on Feb 26, 2012 14:33:47 GMT -5
race fan who made the idra in charge was the those who voted us in and the tracks like the idea of it. why this any of your business racer fan not like ur a driver and you have no reason to be in a spot to be saying anything either. I can call out the promoters at any time i would like.
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 26, 2012 19:49:13 GMT -5
I don't think calling out track offical's will do really much good unless every track k would be on the same page of demanding thing's. That would be a good idea if the track's would then the idra would have to answer the question's. As far as this tech guy goes I'm glade I got ur attention keep making a complete butt of yourself so everyone can see just another problem exist. So to the list of thing's that's wrong with the idra tech must be a problem as we see. Yelling won't so any justice but what will is what coming in the circle. Tech I'm sure u won't enlighten us where you tech at so we are aware of the ability of ur skills. I do like the comment that what the IDRA. Job is to make the driver's life a living hell?
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Post by Race Fan on Feb 27, 2012 6:58:41 GMT -5
I think the reason that IDRA was established was to have uniform rules among tracks, as we do not have that in Central Iowa because Indianola and Winterest have never tried. The rules got established for IDRA the way I remember was that a driver could go to any track and race in Eastern Iowa and have the same rules. IDRA is a little like Nascar, IMCA, USRA in the fact that they have rules for tracks and drivers to follow. But please remember that the promoter still has the final say.
Tech person I do not know anything about you but I can tell you one thing if you worked for Nascar or IMCA or USRA , I would be on the phone this morning and your boss would either fire you or I would not have that sanction any longer.
I really don't have a dog in this fight but a friend of mine told me to read this forum that I would find it funny. The fact is that Tech guy you are screwing around with drivers that spend a lot of money on there cars and you have told them there lives are going to be hell. You are no doubt a person that has no money to build your own car and a person that has no authority in your life so you get on here and show some authourity that you don't have. I am pretty sure that if you talked to all the promoters that run IDRA they would not agree with your comments.
The first thing I am going to do is call Don at Brooklyn and tell him that he really needs to rethink having IDRA and you tech at his track.
I have to agree with Anti-IDRA that all drivers really need to rethink IDRA and not buy a membership if there is one at least untill Tech guy is gone and IDRA has a meeting or answer questions on how they are going to stop this Anti-Driver attach by there tech person.
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 27, 2012 8:44:43 GMT -5
Race fan nothing more would make me and other's happy then to have some answers, I don't believe were asking much but to get the answer's to the question's that is unknown. A perfect world would be everyone getting along.Everyone on the page. As we all know that will never completely happen. But as long as we as driver's have a association I do believe someone in the idra needs to answer these question's. . Tech guy I can say I haven't had a problem with you till your post on here i don't know who you are and that's fine. But mark my word's if you personally start creating havoc I hope every drive walks up to you and puts you in your place. You'll mess up one of these times big time and someone will catch ya. This was not suppose to be about anything with rules but looks like it has clearly gone there. I don't care what ur rules are the more u screw with it the more drivers will explore other options. A more consistane situation takes away more doubts. Let's solve the problem and get answers. Again if I haven't answered anything let me know.
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Post by Stock And Pro Stock Driver on Feb 27, 2012 9:33:38 GMT -5
Everyone can have a dog in the fight but we all know ita not the dog in the fight its the fight in the dog unless someones dog is a little chawawaha and just yaps all the time lmao. I have a good idea who this tech guy is and hes all talk. Always has been. Hes the chawawha yap yap yap lol. He want's someone to tech come tech me put his focus on me i dont care he aint smart enough to find anything anyway. Im mixed feelings on thia idra thing but either way im going to contuine to race and surround myself with people who wanta to have fun and enjoys it like i do. A smart man told me once that ita best to ignore the negitive and just go have fun enjoy the racing your friends your around Surround yourself with the positive . As far as the idra goes i was tols that at the banquet the idra did appoligise for not getting everything done . At least they appogigesed. It cant be easy and to think these guys are doing this without any pay. They dont have to do this. Yes there are a apple or two maybe that is bad in there. And thats aucks but when u go out racing and u see the bad apple in the race do u say im going to race? You go out there deal with it as it comes and try and make the best of the situation. Another smart man once told me racing is only expesive as you make it. To this tech guy if ur ao unhappy with urself that u must mess with other's why dont u find something that makes you happy. Why bring down other's to make urself look big? If your unhappy with how rules are asa tech find a place to solve it not take it out on other's. As me as a drive help is always here if need it to anyone. Ya it sucks all thiese driver's feel like getting screwed. It doesnt mean u have to agree to it. I got a fee good close friend's from racing and know they will stick through the ruff and bad. As for other driver's out there if u find yourself in a bad wave maybe its time to change the group you run with and bring yourself to the postive side of ( SHUT UP AND LET'S GO RACING) make all the rules you want i dont care i will still be racing my favorite tracks Brooklyn, Sigourney,Whatcheer. Thats all i have to say.
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Post by tech guy too on Feb 27, 2012 10:51:19 GMT -5
I get a kick out of you people on here that take these fake names serious. As you can see I'm now a tech guy but, really I just drive a figure eight car. On the Don Wauters thing I'm sure he has read this. But, for amusement and to pick-up any valid points that might be made. He is a well educated business man that happens to love a very redneck sport. But, to respond to a bunch of general wining with only one real name would be silly. There is a bunch of lying too like the losing the sponsor thing. Yes 1200 would be awesome I would love any sponsor money. But, the reason for the loss just don't add up. It would be like someone sponsoring my kid wrestling (witch takes allot of money too) going to a meet and not liking the officials. If they took his money away that's fine i guess but, they aren't supporting my "kid". The IDRA has allot of room to grow and become better i do understand. But, being in my class it is nice to have them tech my car from track to track. If i change something they can see it and if it's not against the rules I don't get hassled at the next track. Or if I have something illegal it is put in their book and and better be fixed by the next time I race. I have seen this happen with someone that had quick steer. It was not changed at the next track and they had the option to bumb up or get it fixed before the race started. The reason we have the IDRA is because the tracks were fighting with each other on schedules and rules. Now thanks to the IDRA the schedules do not conflict and the rules are the same. I'm not saying it is running smoothly but, it is working. I do also wish Adel and Indy ran under the same rules weather it be theirs or ours or a combination of the two. It would be nice to go their but at this point I would have to change my car allot or bump up a class. My biggest thing to the IDRA is to get the website up and running and put information out there for us. And in closing don't believe anyone on here is who they say they are..... as you see I'm tech. guy this time, maybe anti idra next time, and then ill be IDRA. Not saying I will but showing its possible. It's an open but not really honest forum!!!!
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 27, 2012 11:54:39 GMT -5
Tech guy to. I seen your post and i registered the name AntiIdra on here so it will show member. So u saying believe nothing you hear on here? First off your so worried about someone's name on here why didnt u post your's? Before you can call out someone else for there name you best be willing to have your own. As i stated and evedently i need to state this again for you cause you must be clearly slow on tring to comprende this. Simply i called out for answer's. If the idra cant answer the question's that is asked then how does it make the idra? They have a webiste like you said "USE IT" it's there to be used. They have a forum "USE IT" It's there to be used. Clearly the idra aint using it or this wouldn't be a issue and i wouldn't be here. As soon as they appreove my AntiIdra member name on here i will use the member name. So now whats ur excuse once the member name is there cant be used by anyone else but the fact u can change a name is nothing special i proved my end of it that i will contuine this with the screen name and you will know my name is the AntiIdra! As for you calling out someone on there sponsership. I read it and i understand what they are saying. Maybe this person didnt bring it out correctly but hey at least he has the ball's to bring it out. What ball's do u have to bring anything out? As for tech guy to i want to say thank's now you just pushed this to a shove in a direction im going to go with this. Early i thought if this would have had answer's this could have faded out. But after a post like this i will contuine to check in no matter what and when i feel the time is approprate to to address where things are clearly wrong i will address them. I have addressed alot of issues that was wrong what have u address that your clearly just a person sitting there thinking your smart but you aint on either side. Hey don't be on either side of it. That's your thought's. And since where here let's bring up more issues that i have gotten in email's. Now i posted my email to contact me and i have driver's contacting me with there car number and name's. Now clearly they feel comftable with me knowing it but clearly don't feel comftable with other's knowing it. You know bringing name's forward early on is just waiting to be a disaster. You can call out all you want but you wont get what you want. Something diffrent between me and you is i will voice whats wrong and will compliment whats right. And i have complimeted what was done good and also called out the wrong but even you said get the site going so as much as u want to say dont believe anything on here yourself is still in agreement with something! As far as Don name being brought into this i dont think myself id like someones name being thrown out there like that. IDRA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE IDRA. NOT THE TRACK OR THE DRIVER'S. Let's put this in easy term's for you to understand. The idra was formed by a select group of guys in a selected secret location that was NEVER given out to all the driver's. Selected few voted on them. I personaly didnt vote on them or know this happened till after the fact. Way to go IDRA get the driver's involved. Someone said they appoligised to the driver's maybe they did maybe they didn't i dont know that and still if other's are asking for the answer's to then must not have answered to the driver's. If the idra is suppose to be on the same page as other track's etc... Then why aint they on the same page with the driver's? To have a association you have to be with the driver's. It's showing there is no being with the driver's here. Now let me show you how the idra operate's. THey came out with a point system for there IDRA group. that if u raced at every track you got so many extra point's the leader in some class didnt win a single race or didnt even get a great finish but yet cause he spent more money your going to reward this people this? Now the IDRA said they were making it fair for all driver's now you tell me how that's fair? Don't sound very fair to me. I feel bad for the idra member 40 dollar group that got the shaft cause they raced only certain one's. Before you tring to be the big giant tech guy to be sure to have your fact's straight and come straight. I sat here building mine to make sure i had my fact's straight. As number 41 explained in a post before he didnt have a problem saying his name and he called certain thing's out. But you saying don't believe anything on here? Well maybe someone shouldn't believe you also as im straight up. All you can bring up is certain thing. You can't answer the question's that was asked in this area. But you surely took the time to read it all. Maybe when your willing to truely have some fact's and some integenice to the conversation then u come on back and lay down your best hand cause clearly you floped on this one. And again ill put my email out there so cant say i didnt. AntiIdra@gmail.com feel free to use it.
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Post by Don Wauters on Feb 27, 2012 13:25:35 GMT -5
Below is a post from this forum posted on Oct. 13th, 2009. If you notice, I was the one that thought a association of the 4 eastern tracks would be a good idea in promoting the sport so many of us are involved in and have a passion for. My hopes were for us as drivers and fans to advance the sport at the 4 tracks. Prior to this, tracks were scheduling on each other and had a hard time with the unity of rules and classes. Do I think the IDRA is a good thing? YES... Do I think the IDRA could do more? YES...but they do need help. I'm not sure what the correct answers are, but do know that this in-fighting among drivers is not a good thing for the sport. Anyone that would like to discuss further with me is welcome to e-mail me @ www.donw@priority-express.com or you can call me @ (515)577-7722.....This includes Anti Idra also. Don Wauters 76 Guest Meeting: Farmer Nick's/Nov 1st, 3:00pm « Thread Started on Oct 13, 2009, 1:43pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Along with many other drivers we have been watching what the Nebraska Figure 8 Drivers have done over the past year. They started a association to show support for the sport, drivers, officials, promoters, county fairs, and sponsors. It seems to be a great success, in only it's first year. You can go to their website: www.NeFigure8n and check it out. If you have any thoughts, ideas, or want to volunteer. Please feel free to come and voice your opinion. Communication and Unity is why we are looking at starting this & for everyone to be heard and make our sport better. Meeting will be @ Farmer Nick's (I-80 @ Hwy 21) on Sunday, Nov.1st @ 3:00pm. Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Don Wauters 76 Guest Re: Meeting: Farmer Nick's/Nov 1st, 3:00pm « Reply #1 on Oct 13, 2009, 1:44pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The website is: www.NeFigure8n.com
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 27, 2012 13:51:30 GMT -5
Sorry about my previous post about this being a secret meeting. I see that it was posted on this forum. MY BAD.
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Post by HANSEN RACIN 3H on Feb 27, 2012 16:19:08 GMT -5
I spoke with Don Wauters. And what anti idra are your questions you want answers to? If you could lay out the questions in easy to follow format so we can see what your asking and we can try and get the answers. Thanks HansenRacin
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 27, 2012 16:52:46 GMT -5
HansenRacin, I dont know you and not going to take anything against you but i will give ya the chance to get some answers.
1. Why cant all the drivers be notified at the tracks? 2. When can we as drivers get some consistany on being updated on issues? 3. When will the rules be posted ahead of time and time frame? 4. Can we the drivers be given the opptunity to voice are own thoughts? 5. A explaination to the money spent to get into the track how that works? 6. When a driver has a issue how do we contact the people in charge? 7. How will all this get to the drivers? 8. If theres a problem with a tech where do the drivers go? 9. Can we simply get all the adding into the rules as the seasongoes to stop?
Im willing to give anyone the chance to answer these questions. Those were the main beefs we had with the idra. You said you spoke with Don so i have no reason not to believe you. But if you blow this off it will show that you arent any better then what we are complaining about. As for Don goes thanks for the post on that but future wouls be easy and lot better to have this brought to the drivers. As i myself didnt know of this site. A copt or a letter down at the tracks at sign in would be a great way to get the news to the drivers.
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Post by HANSEN RACIN 3H on Feb 27, 2012 17:15:30 GMT -5
Ok give.me a few days to try and get the best information ill be communication with Don and all the approrate people that need to ill do my best to find out the answers to these questions.
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Post by jack crap on Feb 27, 2012 20:24:07 GMT -5
A lot of points are made but no one has done anything. For those that have issues call a meeting, it doesn't need to be an IDRA meeting. You can vote for new leaders and take over. Get the things done that you want done. You know Joe is president. I've been to a lot of races, and seen tons of things change. TAKE CHARGE. Don't sit back and bitch. I have no issues, I just go to have fun. If the IDRA didn't change the rules and the tracks did, would you be anti tracks? The IDRA isn't mandatory, IMCA is, Do you want to pay $100 for your number? It's pretty well known everyone gets their same # every year. Are you mad the IDRA is trying to keep it fair for all drivers? Just wondering, Hope your car is ready for this year. You spend a lot of time on this site!
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 28, 2012 9:11:46 GMT -5
Mr jack crap, What a name. I'm going to give them the time to respond to this. I have my pro stock car ready its been ready as it always has been. As for your post paying for numbers, that would be the stupidest thing you could do to figure 8 racing. Making drivers pay for there number at 100 dollars a number would make tons drop out. We all know these tracks don't pay much but we race cause we like doing it. As for Imca rules that's imca. This is figure 8 racing. Do we really want to go back to this rule thing you said again? I'm curious to the respones to the questions. And here's something better yet. Idra if you read this be a great idea to put this on your website where everyone knows or can see. Also have something down at the tracks so the drivers have the chance to see it there also.
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Post by Anti Idra on Feb 28, 2012 13:03:42 GMT -5
And another thing. I think I should be the Union Boss and speak for all the drivers! I am all knowing what is best for them! They know not what they do! I have nothing better than to cause havoc to all those that appose me!
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